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Post  matadios Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:00 pm

Player Information
Character Name: Matadios
Server: Barthilas
Current Guild: None
Armory Link: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&cn=Matadios
Talent Spec: 1/52/18
Explanation of your spec, glyphs, gems and enchants:
spec: I have 2 talent points in black ice, 1 in subversion, and 4 in killing machine, the rest is pretty much the usual Frost Dk spec. The reason I do not max killing machine is becuase I see that the extra talent point goes to waste, since my priority is mostly on my runes and not on my runic power (I explain more on glyphs), and instead I put it on subversion, which does not only give more crit to my most damaging ability obliterate it also lowers my threat for 8%. I also have 2/2 on chill of the grave, since it always gives me enough runic power in order for me not to be static not throwing any special ability no matter what fight, since many dks count on AMS for their runic powers, which would be a big dps loss.
glyph: Gyph of frost strike, which lowers cost of runic power for frost strike and allows me to always dump enough frost strikes when my runes are on cooldown. Glyph of obliterate, which gives 20% more damage to my highest dps ability which is about on avg 30% of my damage. Glyph of disease, which saves me one x-tra global cooldown by instead of throwing two weak abilities I substitute that by my highest dps ability, obliterate and be able to dump my runic power.
enchants: At the moment I have been been focusing more strenght, then arp. All the normal enchants for a plate dps, with tuskar vitality on feet for the increase movement which I think that alone is uniquely a dps increase. As for gems I use strenght gems on all my red and blue slots, except on my pants I use a nightmare for the +8 str and activating my meta gem. For the yellow slots I have a dilemma. Predominantly they are str+critgems, others are str+hastegems, and others are str+hit gems. Weird I know, but the reason is: in a single target fight, haste>crit. For fight with adds, crit>haste. Now therefore I don't care which ones I have there, becuase both I consider very valuable. There are no standard for all fights on Icecrown Citadel. Some of the bosses bring adds to the fight, and other things such as bone spike/valkyrs which need to be dps down right away. As for the hit, DW Frost DKs only need 5% hit in order for their special melee abilities to hit. Now, having Glyph of Disease as one of my major glyphs that glyph changes my entire rotation to one tight snake skin. Pestilence hit cap=magic hit cap, which is 17%. Sometimes my rotation can get so tight that with .5 of a sec if that pestilence misses it ruines my rotation, losing an obliterate and having to waste 2 global cooldowns. At the moment my hit is close to 8%, and if you consider virulance which gives DKs +3% hit to spell, and in a raid environment misery/improved faerie fire +3% it takes me up to a nice 14%, my happy place. It also gives me less changes of my rime to miss as well. I have a gem for xpertise, leaving me at 23 (not at expertise cap, but very close) since there is nothing worse in this world than to miss an obliterate using deathrunes and then your frost/unholy runes refreshing thus skipping the deathrunes and losing a row of 5 obliterates. Also have bis prof, BS and JC. Changed my race to orc on release of 3.3 for the xtra xptise and Blood Fury.

What makes you an exceptional player?** Important Question ** Mature, with incredible patience. I make my best to make the best out of every situation I am in, whether I am dpsing I am trying to be on top of all, I am tanking I want to be the best guardian of all, I healing the best support for all. I study well every fight and every aspect of my class in order to understand when to blow up cooldowns, when is it acceptable to go defensive/mitigate damage and lose dps over suvirvability and when not to. I also have about 4 other 80 toons, working to get my 6th 80 character. I like to understand other classes as well, which I find is best to understand overall dps and how to down bosses. I love challenges, which is why I enjoy the mechanics of this game. I do not mind staying on the bench or run with the alt group as well, and will wait for the opportunity to get a chance to raid.

Link to current UI screenshot (in combat): ** REQUIRED - Healer UI's need to be in raid combat **
http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=23-075809L&rand=9134&t=jpg&m=09&y=2010&srv=img4
BTW, that is not my actual dps, I was doing voa 25 as a tank =P


Player History
How long have you been playing World of Warcraft?
For 2 years and a half now
What is your raid experience? (Please go into detail on raid instances)
Started on BC, being a casual raider, mostly Kara and Gruul's, and many attempts at Mag. Completed Naxx. In 3.1 have cleared keepers on ulduar. In 3.2 tribute to insanity on 10 man, 4/5 on 25 HM. At the moment, I am 6/12 ICC 25 HM.

Why did you leave your last guild or why are you leaving your current guild? I moved to South Korea, and I was in a Pacific Time server, Gorgonnash with Iron Knights (good guild, loved the guys) but cannot make raid times now due to big difference on time zone conflicting with my work schedule. So was raiding instead on their alt runs, which is only one day and they only do one or two heroics. After 4 now months of doing that I got tired, said goodbye and decided to try a different server.
What other raiding guilds have you been a part of? Blood Crusade, Symphony, and my last guild Iron Knights all from gorgonnash


Personal Facts
Age: 25
Real name (First name only): Frankie
Location (Country + TIME ZONE please): South Korea
Regular play time: About 7 hours a day, except fridays and saturdays
Can you make all the raid times (Wed/Thurs/Sun/Mon 6:30pm-9:30pm AEST. Farm content means considerably less raid days): Yes


Joining Proxy
Why do you want to join Proxy? Want to join a guild with like minded people, who always comes ready to raid, help others when in need and take just criticism seriously, takes initiative to always improve at his job and helps the guild to sustain at its best.

How did you hear about us? A friend recommended me this server, and told me about you
Are you friends with anyone in Proxy? (Knowing of a person or whispering them once does not mean they are your friend) no
Can this person vouch for you?
Why should we accept you into Proxy?** Important Question ** At the moment I see you guys are looking for a Frost Dk dps. I am very confident in saying very well know EXTREMELY well my class (sorry for the cockiness) I have been playing DK frost dps since the release of the game, and been DW since Threat of Thassarian released, and was outdpsing Unholy/Frost DKs well before the famous DW frost buff.

Technical Requirements
Do you have Ventrilo? yeah
Do you have a mic and can talk if needed? yeah
List computer specs (just RAM, CPU, GFX Card): 4g Ram, Intel Core Duo P8400 2.26ghz, GeForce 9800m GTS1GB
Who is your ISP and how fast is your internet connection? samsung, and it is reliable/
Do you disconnect often? no
Do you use other services like Lowerping, WoWTunnels, etc? wowtunnels

Other
WWS/WoL/WMO link of recent raids:
http://wowwebstats.com/4wc3v36eerb6s?a=x3000000055d9694#abilities
It was self buffed at a heroic trainning dummy. Dps is kinda low since my character does also less damage on dummies. Was trying to find a decent pug to run around this server but that seems impossible tonight =/


Last edited by matadios on Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:47 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Post  kazeone Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:36 pm

is there a reason you have a single ARP gem in your weapon?

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Post  matadios Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:47 pm

Not currently raiding serious at the moment so was goofing around seeing the difference of 1 str gem and 1 arp gem.

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Post  ineedtofu Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:56 pm

matadios wrote:Not currently raiding serious at the moment so was goofing around seeing the difference of 1 str gem and 1 arp gem.
what does that mean
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Post  matadios Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:01 pm

I was with my guild doing alt runs since I could not make it to the main run due to differance in time zone when I moved to South Korea for close to 4 months (was living in the East Coast raiding in a pacific time realm). Decided to finally server transfer this week to this server which a friend of mine suggested. Around that time I was doing those alt runs I call "goofing around" and not raiding seriously, so took time to check on stuff/builds/enchants/gemming etc.

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Post  ineedtofu Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:06 pm

why not just use spreadsheets etv
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Post  matadios Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:10 pm

The spreadsheats I have been reading lately are from simulator's that dont really work with glyph of disease I have been seeing. They give the same dps with glyph of disease or no glyph at all.

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Post  Spl Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:22 pm

what sim are you using? as far as i know Kahorie's sim does allow for pretty accurate sims using a GoD or IT build. you could also possibly get more dps out of Sigil of Awareness with the amount of passive ArP that you have.

I'd have to disagree with your explanation for crit hybrid gems over the use of haste ones. Frost gets a lot of passive crit from talents, so haste is definitely the superior stat considering the 40% haste we gets from talents and the scaling nature of haste. Not to mention that if you know there is going to be some AoE coming up you COULD hold onto a KM proc for a guaranteed crit on your Howling Blast in an AoE situation like Val'kyr or bone spikes. It doesn't really justify the use of two str/haste gems, and the bunch of str/crit gems put into your gear. and the random arpen gem has already been mentioned, lol
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Post  matadios Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:50 am

I use Kahories. Here are my results with my current gear. Note: no edit on my armor has been done except on changing one major glyph.

w/ GLYPH OF ICY TOUCH
Damage done|||| hits||| Crits||| Misses|| Glances||| Uptime|
|Total| %| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| %|
MainHand| 944853474| 17.1| 208054| 6451.3| 59615| 24.2| 3358.5| 86844| 35.2| 6908.8| 38447| 15.6| 61595| 25| 2348.5| |
Obliterate| 797882619| 14.4| 69295| 11514.3| 30564| 43.8| 6197.3| 38731| 55.5| 15710.1| 464| .7| | | | |
FrostStrike| 627102602| 11.3| 70106| 8945.1| 29345| 41.6| 4751.8| 40761| 57.7| 11963.9| 493| .7| | | | |
OffHand| 589622160| 10.7| 207867| 4032.7| 59675| 24.2| 2100.5| 86534| 35.1| 4318.9| 38698| 15.7| 61658| 25| 1468.4| |
Obliterate(OH)| 501948382| 9.1| 69759| 7195.5| 30593| 43.9| 3864.6| 39166| 56.1| 9797.2| | | | | | |
FrostStrike(OH)| 393394286| 7.1| 70599| 5572.2| 29663| 42| 2963.7| 40936| 58| 7462.5| | | | | | |
Diseases.FrostFever| 263150828| 4.8| 111017| 2370.4| 111017| 100| 2370.4| | | | | | | | | 99.7|
Diseases.BloodPlague| 201960526| 3.7| 110754| 1823.5| 110754| 100| 1823.5| | | | | | | | | 99.1|
Necrosis| 183561208| 3.3| 208054| 882.3| 208054| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
BloodStrike| 132093806| 2.4| 29631| 4458| 17509| 58.6| 2740.4| 12122| 40.6| 6938.8| 224| .8| | | | |
HowlingBlast| 129816495| 2.3| 8650| 15007.7| 1965| 22.7| 7470.6| 6685| 77.3| 17223.1| 2| | | | | |
BloodCakedBlade| 119393781| 2.2| 62057| 1923.9| 62057| 99.3| 1923.9| | | | 459| .7| | | | |
IcyTouch| 119019289| 2.2| 18104| 6574.2| 7203| 39.8| 3992.1| 10901| 60.2| 8280.4| 10| .1| | | | |
Necrosis(OH)| 114584340| 2.1| 207867| 551.2| 207867| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
BloodStrike(OH)| 83393540| 1.5| 29855| 2793.3| 17508| 58.6| 1708.6| 12347| 41.4| 4331.3| | | | | | |
BloodCakedBlade(OH)| 74560920| 1.3| 61950| 1203.6| 61950| 99.3| 1203.6| | | | 408| .7| | | | |
Ghoul| 102305338| 1.8| 85146| 1783.7| 47892| 56.2| 1428.3| 9464| 11.1| 2416.3| | | 27790| 32.6| 397.1| |
PlagueStrike| 60713264| 1.1| 17961| 3380.3| 10024| 55.5| 2103.8| 7937| 44| 4992.4| 98| .5| | | | |
Army of the Dead| 48651795| .9| 329128| 147.8| 286369| 87| 145.5| 42759| 13| 163.7| | | | | | |
PlagueStrike(OH)| 37922067| .7| 18059| 2099.9| 10164| 56.3| 1311| 7895| 43.7| 3115.5| | | | | | |
MH Razorice| 6162733| .1| 395047| 15.6| 395047| 100| | | | | | | | | | 99.9|
DPS| 15367(+/- 4324)
Total Damage| 5532.09m | in 100h
Total runic power used: 2259168 (1460 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 11088
Generated in |45s
Template:| jk
Priority: |Frost
Presence: |Blood
Sigil: |HangedMan
RuneEnchant: | Razorice / |FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: |True


w/ GLYPH OF DISEASE
Damage done|||| hits||| Crits||| Misses|| Glances||| Uptime|
|Total| %| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| %|
Obliterate| 962221159| 17.6| 83834| 11477.7| 36958| 43.8| 6175.2| 46876| 55.5| 15658.3| 557| .7| | | | |
MainHand| 946668340| 17.3| 208825| 6439.6| 59885| 24.2| 3354.7| 87122| 35.2| 6895.6| 38574| 15.6| 61818| 25| 2345.9| |
FrostStrike| 624300890| 11.4| 68996| 9048.4| 27663| 39.8| 4741| 41333| 59.5| 11931.1| 489| .7| | | | |
Obliterate(OH)| 604473293| 11| 84391| 7162.8| 37093| 44| 3849.7| 47298| 56| 9761.1| | | | | | |
OffHand| 590733707| 10.8| 208598| 4025.5| 59965| 24.2| 2096.9| 86784| 35.1| 4313.2| 38834| 15.7| 61849| 25| 1466| |
FrostStrike(OH)| 391846880| 7.2| 69485| 5639.3| 27927| 40.2| 2956.5| 41558| 59.8| 7442.1| | | | | | |
Diseases.FrostFever| 211000442| 3.9| 118786| 1776.3| 118786| 100| 1776.3| | | | | | | | | 100|
Diseases.BloodPlague| 210848338| 3.8| 118728| 1775.9| 118728| 100| 1775.9| | | | | | | | | 99.5|
Necrosis| 183913889| 3.4| 208825| 880.7| 208825| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
HowlingBlast| 161062242| 2.9| 11212| 14365.2| 3232| 28.8| 7496| 7980| 71.2| 17147.3| 3| | | | | |
BloodCakedBlade| 119882914| 2.2| 62295| 1924.4| 62295| 99.3| 1924.4| | | | 462| .7| | | | |
Necrosis(OH)| 114799428| 2.1| 208598| 550.3| 208598| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
BloodCakedBlade(OH)| 74797674| 1.4| 62165| 1203.2| 62165| 99.3| 1203.2| | | | 410| .7| | | | |
Ghoul| 111476660| 2| 93330| 1773.6| 52532| 56.3| 1421.8| 10320| 11.1| 2399.6| | | 30478| 32.7| 394.5| |
BloodStrike| 64020787| 1.2| 14364| 4457| 8441| 58.4| 2730.1| 5923| 41| 6918.1| 98| .7| | | | |
Army of the Dead| 48721157| .9| 336008| 145| 292137| 86.9| 142.9| 43871| 13.1| 159.1| | | | | | |
BloodStrike(OH)| 40174322| .7| 14462| 2777.9| 8510| 58.8| 1702.3| 5952| 41.2| 4315.8| | | | | | |
MH Razorice| 5885194| .1| 377256| 15.6| 377256| 100| | | | | | | | | | 99.9|
IcyTouch| 5575729| .1| 1246| 4474.9| 667| 53.5| 2978.3| 579| 46.5| 6199| | | | | | |
PlagueStrike| 3965560| .1| 1237| 3205.8| 656| 52.6| 1952| 581| 46.6| 4621.4| 9| .7| | | | |
PlagueStrike(OH)| 2406426| | 1246| 1931.3| 698| 56| 1203| 548| 44| 2859| | | | | | |
DPS| 15219(+/- 4150)
Total Damage| 5478.78m | in 100h
Total runic power used: 2223520 (73 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 10966
Generated in |42s
Template:| jk
Priority: |Frost
Presence: |Blood
Sigil: |HangedMan
RuneEnchant: | Razorice / |FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: |True


w/ NO GLYPH
Damage done|||| hits||| Crits||| Misses|| Glances||| Uptime|
|Total| %| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| %|
MainHand| 944853474| 17.2| 208054| 6451.3| 59615| 24.2| 3358.5| 86844| 35.2| 6908.8| 38447| 15.6| 61595| 25| 2348.5| |
Obliterate| 797882619| 14.5| 69295| 11514.3| 30564| 43.8| 6197.3| 38731| 55.5| 15710.1| 464| .7| | | | |
FrostStrike| 627102602| 11.4| 70106| 8945.1| 29345| 41.6| 4751.8| 40761| 57.7| 11963.9| 493| .7| | | | |
OffHand| 589622160| 10.7| 207867| 4032.7| 59675| 24.2| 2100.5| 86534| 35.1| 4318.9| 38698| 15.7| 61658| 25| 1468.4| |
Obliterate(OH)| 501948382| 9.1| 69759| 7195.5| 30593| 43.9| 3864.6| 39166| 56.1| 9797.2| | | | | | |
FrostStrike(OH)| 393394286| 7.2| 70599| 5572.2| 29663| 42| 2963.7| 40936| 58| 7462.5| | | | | | |
Diseases.FrostFever| 219285630| 4| 111017| 1975.2| 111017| 100| 1975.2| | | | | | | | | 99.7|
Diseases.BloodPlague| 201960526| 3.7| 110754| 1823.5| 110754| 100| 1823.5| | | | | | | | | 99.1|
Necrosis| 183561208| 3.3| 208054| 882.3| 208054| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
BloodStrike| 132093806| 2.4| 29631| 4458| 17509| 58.6| 2740.4| 12122| 40.6| 6938.8| 224| .8| | | | |
HowlingBlast| 129816495| 2.4| 8650| 15007.7| 1965| 22.7| 7470.6| 6685| 77.3| 17223.1| 2| | | | | |
BloodCakedBlade| 119393781| 2.2| 62057| 1923.9| 62057| 99.3| 1923.9| | | | 459| .7| | | | |
IcyTouch| 119019289| 2.2| 18104| 6574.2| 7203| 39.8| 3992.1| 10901| 60.2| 8280.4| 10| .1| | | | |
Necrosis(OH)| 114584340| 2.1| 207867| 551.2| 207867| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
BloodStrike(OH)| 83393540| 1.5| 29855| 2793.3| 17508| 58.6| 1708.6| 12347| 41.4| 4331.3| | | | | | |
BloodCakedBlade(OH)| 74560920| 1.4| 61950| 1203.6| 61950| 99.3| 1203.6| | | | 408| .7| | | | |
Ghoul| 102305338| 1.9| 85146| 1783.7| 47892| 56.2| 1428.3| 9464| 11.1| 2416.3| | | 27790| 32.6| 397.1| |
PlagueStrike| 60713264| 1.1| 17961| 3380.3| 10024| 55.5| 2103.8| 7937| 44| 4992.4| 98| .5| | | | |
Army of the Dead| 48651795| .9| 329128| 147.8| 286369| 87| 145.5| 42759| 13| 163.7| | | | | | |
PlagueStrike(OH)| 37922067| .7| 18059| 2099.9| 10164| 56.3| 1311| 7895| 43.7| 3115.5| | | | | | |
MH Razorice| 6162733| .1| 395047| 15.6| 395047| 100| | | | | | | | | | 99.9|
DPS| 15245(+/- 4294)
Total Damage| 5488.23m | in 100h
Total runic power used: 2259168 (1460 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 10998
Generated in |46s
Template:| jk
Priority: |Frost
Presence: |Blood
Sigil: |HangedMan
RuneEnchant: | Razorice / |FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: |True

This problem has been notified to Kahorie already several times by other users of the simulator on elitistjerks.

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Post  Fuls Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:20 am

Your Gemming is absolutly horrible and not taking into count any socket bonus gains from other pieces of gear...
Also 1 ARP Gem will always be a dps loss even if your "testing"....

You Should have done a shit load more research on your class as you don't know what your doing specially as frost where you should be full arp and using sigil of awareness.....
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Post  matadios Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:39 am

I agree that str-haste> str-crit for fights like saurfang/rotface and prob even dreamwalker/LK/marrogwar hands down the benefit you get from haste overcomes everything that crit has to offer I agree on you on that one. But you are telling me I should gem on blue sockets for socket bonus. That is a big negative. I gem for socket bonus on items with yellow or red sockets only, and only one nightmare tear on the blue socket that offered me the highest socket bonus which are my legs with a +8 str for relentles meta gem activation. Also the reason I do not go full arp is because according to sims str still > arp in my current armory. Last time I did math if I gemmed all arp I will only be close to 1200 arp, which is not near yet to arp cap which is 1400. Once I pass 1300 I am planning on going full arp with sigil of awareness.

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Post  megarambo Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:30 pm

did you know..

when u scroll up and down really fast on your parse output post its like ur in the matrix
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Post  matadios Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:29 pm

Edited my armory. Changed 4 inscribed gems to firce ones, and fractured gem to bold. If I were to begin raiding with you guys, this would be how I would come. The rest of the gems I have I already explained on top of app. I apologized for not doing this before making the application. Since I am the one applaying I should of have everything corrected in the first place to give the best impression and avoid giving the wrong idea. I also want to say thank you for all the comments and criticisms, would love to begin raiding with you guys soon. Thank you for your time if my application to your guild is declined and best of luck to you guys in Cata. cheers

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Post  ineedtofu Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:31 pm

matadios wrote:I gem for socket bonus on items with yellow or red sockets only, and only one nightmare tear on the blue socket that offered me the highest socket bonus which are my legs with a +8 str for relentles meta gem activation.
you do know that the pants even though it says +8str its only 4 str right? as in red is ignored cuz ur gonna put a str gem in there anyways. that leaves 2 multi colored gems that you would use. an orange gem and a nightmare tear. ends up being 4 str per gem (8/2=4 if u need help with your math)
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Post  Fozby Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:49 pm

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